Comments on: Art school controversy http://artandperception.com/2006/10/art-school-controversy.html a multi-disciplinary dialog Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:29:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Matt http://artandperception.com/2006/10/art-school-controversy.html#comment-415 Matt Sun, 22 Oct 2006 09:20:00 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/v01/2006/10/art-school-controversy.html#comment-415 David, You make an excellent point. It's always about the economics. David,

You make an excellent point. It’s always about the economics.

]]> By: David http://artandperception.com/2006/10/art-school-controversy.html#comment-414 David Sun, 08 Oct 2006 23:59:00 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/v01/2006/10/art-school-controversy.html#comment-414 PS - I should point out that I have a number of friends here in L.A. that are very capable, talented artists, who <I>don't</I> have regular jobs. They're always hunting around trying to figure out ways to make a living, and it takes up most of their time and energy. Even w/ my full-time gig, I get a lot more of my own work done than they do, and manage to exhibit more as well. Having a stable income is a good thing, and when you're in the studio you can really focus on your work. PS - I should point out that I have a number of friends here in L.A. that are very capable, talented artists, who don’t have regular jobs. They’re always hunting around trying to figure out ways to make a living, and it takes up most of their time and energy. Even w/ my full-time gig, I get a lot more of my own work done than they do, and manage to exhibit more as well. Having a stable income is a good thing, and when you’re in the studio you can really focus on your work.

]]> By: David http://artandperception.com/2006/10/art-school-controversy.html#comment-413 David Sun, 08 Oct 2006 19:49:00 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/v01/2006/10/art-school-controversy.html#comment-413 <I>Let me challenge you here, just hypothetically. Why don't you quit your normal job and go into art 100%? You have proved that you have the ability. You have high standards. Don't you think the total immersion and challenge would bring you to a new level of accomplishment? </I> Karl, It's an interesting challenge, but I should point out that it's a business challenge and not an artistic one. Besides, I've already done that once, and it's taken me years to recover from it financially. Not fun. Your hypothesis would have to include the assumption that as the work gets better, money automatically flows in to your bank account in larger and larger quantities. I haven't found that to be the case. The new level of accomplishment that results from total immersion may be accompanied by stacks of unpaid bills and nasty calls from creditors. Really interferes with the creative flow. Let me challenge you here, just hypothetically. Why don’t you quit your normal job and go into art 100%? You have proved that you have the ability. You have high standards. Don’t you think the total immersion and challenge would bring you to a new level of accomplishment?

Karl, It’s an interesting challenge, but I should point out that it’s a business challenge and not an artistic one. Besides, I’ve already done that once, and it’s taken me years to recover from it financially. Not fun.

Your hypothesis would have to include the assumption that as the work gets better, money automatically flows in to your bank account in larger and larger quantities. I haven’t found that to be the case. The new level of accomplishment that results from total immersion may be accompanied by stacks of unpaid bills and nasty calls from creditors. Really interferes with the creative flow.

]]> By: Tracy Helgeson http://artandperception.com/2006/10/art-school-controversy.html#comment-412 Tracy Helgeson Sun, 08 Oct 2006 14:20:00 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/v01/2006/10/art-school-controversy.html#comment-412 We have not tried to actually paint something together although it is an activity that we do with our kids, and it is fun. Sometimes I tease him when he is giving me advice (I get a bit crabby with him when he is right, which is most of the time) and offer him the brush so that he can do it, but he isn't interested in going that far with the painting! Photography is more his thing. We have not tried to actually paint something together although it is an activity that we do with our kids, and it is fun.

Sometimes I tease him when he is giving me advice (I get a bit crabby with him when he is right, which is most of the time) and offer him the brush so that he can do it, but he isn’t interested in going that far with the painting! Photography is more his thing.

]]> By: Bob http://artandperception.com/2006/10/art-school-controversy.html#comment-411 Bob Sun, 08 Oct 2006 14:16:00 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/v01/2006/10/art-school-controversy.html#comment-411 Hi Karl, I would be very interested in learning what artist want from a school and an instructor? Hi Karl, I would be very interested in learning what artist want from a school and an instructor?

]]> By: Karl Zipser http://artandperception.com/2006/10/art-school-controversy.html#comment-410 Karl Zipser Sun, 08 Oct 2006 12:31:00 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/v01/2006/10/art-school-controversy.html#comment-410 Have you ever painted a picture together so that it is impossible to say that it is either your picture, or his, alone? I think this a frowned upon in "the art world". Why, I don't know. But it makes it more fun to do . . . Have you ever painted a picture together so that it is impossible to say that it is either your picture, or his, alone? I think this a frowned upon in “the art world”. Why, I don’t know. But it makes it more fun to do . . .

]]> By: Tracy Helgeson http://artandperception.com/2006/10/art-school-controversy.html#comment-409 Tracy Helgeson Sun, 08 Oct 2006 12:24:00 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/v01/2006/10/art-school-controversy.html#comment-409 My paintings are definitely a collaborative effort. My husband gives me invaluable feedback on much of my work and has helped me to save a number of pieces that I would have given up on. He also tells me when I should leave a painting alone-which is the best help I could get, as I have a tendency to overwork. My paintings are definitely a collaborative effort. My husband gives me invaluable feedback on much of my work and has helped me to save a number of pieces that I would have given up on. He also tells me when I should leave a painting alone-which is the best help I could get, as I have a tendency to overwork.

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