Comments on: Learning to Accept Criticism: without hurting someone! http://artandperception.com/2006/10/learning-to-accept-criticism-without-hurting-someone.html a multi-disciplinary dialog Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:55:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Karl Zipser http://artandperception.com/2006/10/learning-to-accept-criticism-without-hurting-someone.html#comment-924 Karl Zipser Mon, 06 Nov 2006 05:52:25 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/v01/2006/10/learning-to-accept-criticism-without-hurting-someone.html#comment-924 Jewel, I've found that self-criticism online is a great way to toughen one's self to criticism from others, and to be able to use it without feeling abused. Jewel,

I’ve found that self-criticism online is a great way to toughen one’s self to criticism from others, and to be able to use it without feeling abused.

]]> By: Jewel http://artandperception.com/2006/10/learning-to-accept-criticism-without-hurting-someone.html#comment-915 Jewel Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:38:37 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/v01/2006/10/learning-to-accept-criticism-without-hurting-someone.html#comment-915 I don't believe it's long-winded at all, and that it's very interesting and informative. And in my experience, very true. I have yet to learn to fully open up to critism, but I hope I'll get there one of these days. I don’t believe it’s long-winded at all, and that it’s very interesting and informative. And in my experience, very true. I have yet to learn to fully open up to critism, but I hope I’ll get there one of these days.

]]> By: Lisa http://artandperception.com/2006/10/learning-to-accept-criticism-without-hurting-someone.html#comment-639 Lisa Sat, 28 Oct 2006 16:22:21 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/v01/2006/10/learning-to-accept-criticism-without-hurting-someone.html#comment-639 I'm not sure why this post was in italics but it was bugging me so I removed the tags that were doing that. Jon - I suspect you didn't mean for it to do this as it's not like this on the old a&p site - but if you really wanted it that way I can put it back! I haven't had a chance to actually read this yet as I've been playing with the template but hopefully soon as the bits I've seen look interesting. I’m not sure why this post was in italics but it was bugging me so I removed the tags that were doing that. Jon - I suspect you didn’t mean for it to do this as it’s not like this on the old a&p site - but if you really wanted it that way I can put it back!

I haven’t had a chance to actually read this yet as I’ve been playing with the template but hopefully soon as the bits I’ve seen look interesting.

]]> By: Jon Conkey http://artandperception.com/2006/10/learning-to-accept-criticism-without-hurting-someone.html#comment-638 Jon Conkey Sat, 28 Oct 2006 15:43:40 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/v01/2006/10/learning-to-accept-criticism-without-hurting-someone.html#comment-638 Birgit, The title "Everything I ever learned, I learned in Kindergarden" is also long winded, and was a best seller; should everything be short and sweet? I felt the title was right-on. Are you expressing an opinion to the title?, or the whole post? I do very much respect your opinion, and I will change all future posts because of your comment,(because I have been enlightened). Please let me know if this is a "fact or fancy" on your part. Jon Birgit, The title “Everything I ever learned, I learned in Kindergarden” is also long winded, and was a best seller; should everything be short and sweet? I felt the title was right-on. Are you expressing an opinion to the title?, or the whole post? I do very much respect your opinion, and I will change all future posts because of your comment,(because I have been enlightened). Please let me know if this is a “fact or fancy” on your part. Jon

]]> By: Birgit http://artandperception.com/2006/10/learning-to-accept-criticism-without-hurting-someone.html#comment-623 Birgit Sat, 28 Oct 2006 13:16:30 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/v01/2006/10/learning-to-accept-criticism-without-hurting-someone.html#comment-623 the comment 'Learn to accept criticism' is too long-winded. the comment ‘Learn to accept criticism’ is too long-winded.

]]> By: Karl Zipser http://artandperception.com/2006/10/learning-to-accept-criticism-without-hurting-someone.html#comment-622 Karl Zipser Sat, 28 Oct 2006 01:43:00 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/v01/2006/10/learning-to-accept-criticism-without-hurting-someone.html#comment-622 Since we are on the topic of criticism, I think this post is a bit long for its message. I would not want to lose any content, but I find it too many words. Since we are on the topic of criticism, I think this post is a bit long for its message. I would not want to lose any content, but I find it too many words.

]]> By: Karl Zipser http://artandperception.com/2006/10/learning-to-accept-criticism-without-hurting-someone.html#comment-621 Karl Zipser Fri, 27 Oct 2006 22:49:00 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/v01/2006/10/learning-to-accept-criticism-without-hurting-someone.html#comment-621 I disagree, that one must preface criticism with praise. This makes sense for in-person discussion of art. On the web, it puts up a barrier to participation. Yes, it might be polite to do what you do. But I'd hate to miss some good advice because a person felt they needed to type out a couple of paragraphs of praise before they told me what they really thought. Also, when I read praise, I want to believe that it is real praise, and not just there to cushion the criticism. Also, you suggest a romantic ideal where a person is control of their art, and criticisms are just "suggestions." Morally, legally, socially this may be true. But in reality, when someone comments on your work, they influence you -- if the comment is a good one. I think it is great to show work for critique, and I want to do this more myself. But I think sometimes we need to keep some things "off-line" while we are developing ideas, ideas that need to be protected from outside influence until they are robust. I disagree, that one must preface criticism with praise. This makes sense for in-person discussion of art. On the web, it puts up a barrier to participation. Yes, it might be polite to do what you do. But I’d hate to miss some good advice because a person felt they needed to type out a couple of paragraphs of praise before they told me what they really thought. Also, when I read praise, I want to believe that it is real praise, and not just there to cushion the criticism.

Also, you suggest a romantic ideal where a person is control of their art, and criticisms are just “suggestions.” Morally, legally, socially this may be true. But in reality, when someone comments on your work, they influence you — if the comment is a good one. I think it is great to show work for critique, and I want to do this more myself. But I think sometimes we need to keep some things “off-line” while we are developing ideas, ideas that need to be protected from outside influence until they are robust.

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