Comments on: Children’s art, in the perception of the observer [UPDATE 2] http://artandperception.com/2007/01/childrens-art-in-the-perception-of-the-observer.html a multi-disciplinary dialog Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:18:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Samantha http://artandperception.com/2007/01/childrens-art-in-the-perception-of-the-observer.html#comment-50691 Samantha Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:37:15 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/2007/01/childrens-art-in-the-perception-of-the-observer.html#comment-50691 We can learn so much from children - expression, acceptance and simplicity - no defining the world into what is right or wrong. So present in the moment and in awe at the world and the miracle of life. Each day i am in awe at how incredible my 4 year old doughter is so intelligent but from the inside which is what i think counts the most. We can learn so much from children - expression, acceptance and simplicity - no defining the world into what is right or wrong. So present in the moment and in awe at the world and the miracle of life.

Each day i am in awe at how incredible my 4 year old doughter is so intelligent but from the inside which is what i think counts the most.

]]> By: Cindy Lietz http://artandperception.com/2007/01/childrens-art-in-the-perception-of-the-observer.html#comment-4911 Cindy Lietz Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:15:36 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/2007/01/childrens-art-in-the-perception-of-the-observer.html#comment-4911 Steve, I think the best way for anyone one to get to know a new medium, whether it is a child or an adult, is to just 'play' with it a little. I like your idea of having a whole group work on the same piece, by just making marks. This way the child can experiment with the movement of their hands, and how the colors play out onto the paper without the 'stress' of having to create something specific. I don't know about you but when ever I get some new art supply, whether paints, rubber stamps, polymer clay, or what-have-you, I always just fool around with it a while. With no particular purpose in mind other than getting to know the material. I think that is what kids are often doing, just 'playing' with the materials. PS. Birgit you are a fantastic Mom! Because of your foresight, your son's art is still around to be enjoyed and discussed. Bravo! Steve,

I think the best way for anyone one to get to know a new medium, whether it is a child or an adult, is to just ‘play’ with it a little.

I like your idea of having a whole group work on the same piece, by just making marks. This way the child can experiment with the movement of their hands, and how the colors play out onto the paper without the ’stress’ of having to create something specific.

I don’t know about you but when ever I get some new art supply, whether paints, rubber stamps, polymer clay, or what-have-you, I always just fool around with it a while. With no particular purpose in mind other than getting to know the material.

I think that is what kids are often doing, just ‘playing’ with the materials.

PS. Birgit you are a fantastic Mom! Because of your foresight, your son’s art is still around to be enjoyed and discussed. Bravo!

]]> By: birgit http://artandperception.com/2007/01/childrens-art-in-the-perception-of-the-observer.html#comment-4796 birgit Tue, 30 Jan 2007 21:55:47 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/2007/01/childrens-art-in-the-perception-of-the-observer.html#comment-4796 The painting was done at a nursery school and brought home by Karl. It is oriented as initially shown. I have to think about how it was framed. I framed most of the very early pictures done at home with magic markers using bright yellow mats and thin, red-painted frames that I made in our basement. Now I remember, originally, the black frame enclosed a reproduction of some Greek warrior that I had bought. I threw away the warrior and made the black mat to match the frame and inserted Karl's picture. The painting was done at a nursery school and brought home by Karl. It is oriented as initially shown.

I have to think about how it was framed. I framed most of the very early pictures done at home with magic markers using bright yellow mats and thin, red-painted frames that I made in our basement.

Now I remember, originally, the black frame enclosed a reproduction of some Greek warrior that I had bought. I threw away the warrior and made the black mat to match the frame and inserted Karl’s picture.

]]> By: Steve Durbin http://artandperception.com/2007/01/childrens-art-in-the-perception-of-the-observer.html#comment-4794 Steve Durbin Tue, 30 Jan 2007 21:52:32 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/2007/01/childrens-art-in-the-perception-of-the-observer.html#comment-4794 Cindy, With your experience, how often do you think that children just draw marks? Not deliberately trying to be abstract, but just playing with the brush. One thing I've done with very young ones as a joint activity is just taking turns scribbling any kind of line or shape we want. Gradually we fill up the page, then start another. I've done this when there's no common language, or almost no language at all, and the kids immediately grasp the concept. Cindy,
With your experience, how often do you think that children just draw marks? Not deliberately trying to be abstract, but just playing with the brush. One thing I’ve done with very young ones as a joint activity is just taking turns scribbling any kind of line or shape we want. Gradually we fill up the page, then start another. I’ve done this when there’s no common language, or almost no language at all, and the kids immediately grasp the concept.

]]> By: Karl Zipser http://artandperception.com/2007/01/childrens-art-in-the-perception-of-the-observer.html#comment-4789 Karl Zipser Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:47:03 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/2007/01/childrens-art-in-the-perception-of-the-observer.html#comment-4789 I would like to hear what she has to say about it, if she can even remember. I have difficulty remembering the details of how my children make their artwork last week, because there is such a continual flow of it. I'll send her a note to look at this discussion you have started. I would like to hear what she has to say about it, if she can even remember. I have difficulty remembering the details of how my children make their artwork last week, because there is such a continual flow of it. I’ll send her a note to look at this discussion you have started.

]]> By: Cindy Lietz http://artandperception.com/2007/01/childrens-art-in-the-perception-of-the-observer.html#comment-4788 Cindy Lietz Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:33:41 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/2007/01/childrens-art-in-the-perception-of-the-observer.html#comment-4788 You are clever, messing with us all like that! Definitely the mind of an artist! So how did your Mom hang it on the wall? My guess is that there is no way, you as a three or four year old, would have allowed her to hang it upside down. Am I right? You are clever, messing with us all like that! Definitely the mind of an artist!

So how did your Mom hang it on the wall?

My guess is that there is no way, you as a three or four year old, would have allowed her to hang it upside down.

Am I right?

]]> By: Karl Zipser http://artandperception.com/2007/01/childrens-art-in-the-perception-of-the-observer.html#comment-4784 Karl Zipser Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:00:02 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/2007/01/childrens-art-in-the-perception-of-the-observer.html#comment-4784 Cindy, Thanks for taking a look at this painting. I would like to believe that the man was intended to be a figure in this painting. There is something deliberate looking in the way he is painted. However, I would not be surprised if the image of the man is only in our minds as observers, but was not in the mind of the artist. Perhaps we are looking at the picture upside-down? Now, there is an idea for an update . . . I put the "rotated" image at the end of the post. What does it look like now? To me it looks like nothing, but maybe with time that will change. Cindy,

Thanks for taking a look at this painting. I would like to believe that the man was intended to be a figure in this painting. There is something deliberate looking in the way he is painted. However, I would not be surprised if the image of the man is only in our minds as observers, but was not in the mind of the artist. Perhaps we are looking at the picture upside-down? Now, there is an idea for an update . . .

I put the “rotated” image at the end of the post. What does it look like now? To me it looks like nothing, but maybe with time that will change.

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