Personally I think – after read all the arguments/debate above- I find the conclusion. As a live human. “Art much less important than life, but what a poor life without art” (Unnamed)

There’s no real “fine artist” without body and soul. There’s no body without foods.There’s no foods without money.

Fine art is only for art sake. Even a gallery try to exhibit it’s fine art work aims to show it to the peoples due to this gallery reputation, event, prestige etc… so it’s already miss from the first rules.. “Only for art sake”

and for e fine artist too..
try to live and works in third world country with it’s fine art skill only..
I guarantee soon the artist will be dead in poverty; no foods, no beverages etc..

So fine art is very complicated and almost not possible to do for poor artist even he is talented in art..and I agreed with Dan notes above :

“I think that the “fine art” world has become controlled by an elite few, mostly public servants who head state run galleries and government grant issueing bodies, and as a result all of the “talent” has moved to the commercial arts”

it sound capitalism system influence art. Personally I don’t like it.
I more agree that we have a GIFTS from God -or nature if you’re an atheist- it’s our TALENTS… or ability to create something… for life it self ability to paint…and if “a fine artist” refused a commission art because his idealism about “Fine Art” when actually he really needs money for: his wife medication, pay the house rent, pay the kids school, pay the bills etc… and he able to do it easily… but he don’t…

Yes maybe he is a Great Fine Artist for some peoples… but for me He is the most stupid person in the world… stupid father.. stupid husband.. etc..

I found lot of case like this is my country.. 3rd world country. Lot’s of fine artist divorce.. abandoned his wife and children..living in a dirty flat.. sick.. eat Geckos for survive… no foods..no money… and dead terribly…unleash you are son of Donald trump or Bill Gates may be this will not happen… :)

Rex you choose the right decision. :)

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Life: For Art, By Art, for Art..

thank you,

I’m actually a student at art school and am writing an essay on commercial art vs “fine art”, and I found your opinion interesting. I’m basically of the same opinion. I think that the “fine art” world has become controlled by an elite few, mostly public servants who head state run galleries and government grant issueing bodies, and as a result all of the “talent” has moved to the commercial arts.

I was having a debate with my supervisor over this (we don’t agree obviously). My essay is specifically about Frazetta, comparing him to other great hero/narrative painters of history, of which there is plenty of precedent. My supervisor kept coming up with fairly lame reason’s why “my guy” (apparently commercial artist’s aren’t good enough for him to refer to them by name) wasn’t a real artist. He basically said that to be a real artist, you had to express doubt, anxiety, uncertainty, and explore problems. What a load of rubbish! That’s perhaps true if you’re an insecure loser who isn’t sure about anything.

Another thing I hate is the the “fine art” world is so snobbishly dismissive of any art that people like, i.e. true “pop art”, like comics, landscape photography, fantasy art, etc. The fine art world is of the belief that if a work is “too easily digestible” then it must be bad because it isn’t challenging or confronting. The belief around my school is that “real art” is difficult, challenges, and confronts the viewer – i.e. the viewer doesn’t like what they see. No wonder fine art has marginalised itself while film/tv has come to such cultural dominance.

anyway that’s my beef. if you have any helpful info please email me!

Seems to me there’s both good and boring stuff going on in “fine” and“commercial” art. By “commercial” art I’m assuming you mean advertising or illustration, as opposed to “commercial fine art” like Kincaid or that blue dog person.

Since commercial art is about selling something other than the art itself, the only kind I can get excited about actually doing is art that sells something I like. Music is shrinkingly in that category, in the sense that while I love music, the artwork keeps getting smaller. First there were album covers, then smaller CD covers, and now it’s whatever can be viewed on your iPod.

This Wyeth painting is interesting in the way it has such a strong chromatic impact with a limited palette. White and grays play the role of blue, for example, a do so effectively.

The dividing line is personal pleasure. For me, that means passion. I have to have it. If I do, it comes through in the work; if I don’t, I just can’t fake it.

(Well, not for long, anyway.)

What you say about the joy of the frumpy unpredictability of random irregularities makes total sense. On the other hand, there’s a lot of commercial work that’s fantastically loose. Look at the art in CD jackets, for example. Pretty wild stuff.