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	<title>Comments on: Isn’t Criticism a ridiculous stupidity?</title>
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		<title>By: Arthur Whitman</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/01/isn%e2%80%99t-criticism-a-ridiculous-stupidity.html#comment-3745</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur Whitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The word “criticism,” all by itself tends to evoke only the populist definitions, but as soon as we put an adjectival modifier anywhere near it, like “art criticism,” “social criticism,” “political criticism,” etc any educated person knows we are probably not only talking about ridicule or insults but critical analysis&lt;/i&gt;

Then there appears to be no disagreement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The word “criticism,” all by itself tends to evoke only the populist definitions, but as soon as we put an adjectival modifier anywhere near it, like “art criticism,” “social criticism,” “political criticism,” etc any educated person knows we are probably not only talking about ridicule or insults but critical analysis</i></p>
<p>Then there appears to be no disagreement.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/01/isn%e2%80%99t-criticism-a-ridiculous-stupidity.html#comment-3734</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arthur,

I've been so freakingly busy, I have not had time to say some of the things I wished to say or thought about, so before I dash off onto another of my Missions, and now that the morning's drawing is done, I can get in something I would have added yesterday -- context.

The word "criticism," all by itself tends to evoke only the populist definitions, but as soon as we put an adjectival modifier anywhere near it, like "art criticism," "social criticism," "political criticism," etc any educated person knows we are probably not &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt; talking about ridicule or insults but critical analysis. While it's true that some art, etc critics do merely insult or ridicule, they also thereby certainly demonstrate themselves as merely unprofessional.

I've noted that when you don't like (or like) something, you give reasons, and the reasons can be evaluated. Opinions are opinions and are presented as such.

Yes, I'm preaching to the choir, probably, but still, I just wanted to go on record as a little more nuanced and and understanding about criticism. I know I read art criticism regularly. I'm of the opinion that art critics are positioned to advance or retard the arts, and so I always look for social responsibility in their work.

So "parasitic and decadent" need not apply!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arthur,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been so freakingly busy, I have not had time to say some of the things I wished to say or thought about, so before I dash off onto another of my Missions, and now that the morning&#8217;s drawing is done, I can get in something I would have added yesterday &#8212; context.</p>
<p>The word &#8220;criticism,&#8221; all by itself tends to evoke only the populist definitions, but as soon as we put an adjectival modifier anywhere near it, like &#8220;art criticism,&#8221; &#8220;social criticism,&#8221; &#8220;political criticism,&#8221; etc any educated person knows we are probably not <i>only</i> talking about ridicule or insults but critical analysis. While it&#8217;s true that some art, etc critics do merely insult or ridicule, they also thereby certainly demonstrate themselves as merely unprofessional.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noted that when you don&#8217;t like (or like) something, you give reasons, and the reasons can be evaluated. Opinions are opinions and are presented as such.</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m preaching to the choir, probably, but still, I just wanted to go on record as a little more nuanced and and understanding about criticism. I know I read art criticism regularly. I&#8217;m of the opinion that art critics are positioned to advance or retard the arts, and so I always look for social responsibility in their work.</p>
<p>So &#8220;parasitic and decadent&#8221; need not apply!</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur Whitman</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/01/isn%e2%80%99t-criticism-a-ridiculous-stupidity.html#comment-3729</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur Whitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Arthur Whitman might argue that art criticism is an art form in itself.&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, albeit a rather specialized, parasitic and decadent one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Arthur Whitman might argue that art criticism is an art form in itself.</i></p>
<p>Yes, albeit a rather specialized, parasitic and decadent one.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur Whitman</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/01/isn%e2%80%99t-criticism-a-ridiculous-stupidity.html#comment-3728</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur Whitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Here is an idea (and an experience): curate a simple show (”5 Works I Really Really Like”, “Reproductions of My Neighbor’s Artwork on their Walls”, etc.) and post it here. Ask your colleagues at A&#38;P to tell a friend about it or make a flyer and hang it in their favorite coffee shop. I’ll make one for your show and post it.&lt;/i&gt;

Great idea--I'll get to it.

&lt;i&gt;What about children’s art then? Should we think of it as a category, like grown-up art, or should we think in terms of individuals? &lt;/i&gt;

Why not both?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Here is an idea (and an experience): curate a simple show (”5 Works I Really Really Like”, “Reproductions of My Neighbor’s Artwork on their Walls”, etc.) and post it here. Ask your colleagues at A&amp;P to tell a friend about it or make a flyer and hang it in their favorite coffee shop. I’ll make one for your show and post it.</i></p>
<p>Great idea&#8211;I&#8217;ll get to it.</p>
<p><i>What about children’s art then? Should we think of it as a category, like grown-up art, or should we think in terms of individuals? </i></p>
<p>Why not both?</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Zipser</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/01/isn%e2%80%99t-criticism-a-ridiculous-stupidity.html#comment-3705</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Zipser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 09:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, Marc. I think Arthur Whitman might argue that art criticism is an art form in itself. I would agree with that notion, anyway.

What about children's art then? Should we think of it as a category, like grown-up art, or should we think in terms of individuals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Marc. I think Arthur Whitman might argue that art criticism is an art form in itself. I would agree with that notion, anyway.</p>
<p>What about children&#8217;s art then? Should we think of it as a category, like grown-up art, or should we think in terms of individuals?</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Criticism is neither a ridiculous stupidity nor a valuable tool - only individual critics work could be that.  Useful or insightful or just entertaining criticism comes from a critic with opinions that you find useful, insightful, or entertaining.  Influential criticism comes from a critic that a whole lot of people find useful, insightful or entertaining.

Just like art, for that matter. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Criticism is neither a ridiculous stupidity nor a valuable tool - only individual critics work could be that.  Useful or insightful or just entertaining criticism comes from a critic with opinions that you find useful, insightful, or entertaining.  Influential criticism comes from a critic that a whole lot of people find useful, insightful or entertaining.</p>
<p>Just like art, for that matter. . .</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Zipser</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/01/isn%e2%80%99t-criticism-a-ridiculous-stupidity.html#comment-3678</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Zipser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 08:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Art and Neuroscience&lt;/i&gt;? You mean, I could have stayed in my old day job? Ugh!

Seriously Steve, I know &lt;a href="http://psy.ucsd.edu/chip/ramabio.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Vilayanur S. Ramachandran&lt;/a&gt;  and I tried to make an interview appointment with him when I was in San Diego.  I should have tried harder, but I had jet lag. Next time . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Art and Neuroscience</i>? You mean, I could have stayed in my old day job? Ugh!</p>
<p>Seriously Steve, I know <a href="http://psy.ucsd.edu/chip/ramabio.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/psy.ucsd.edu');" rel="nofollow">Vilayanur S. Ramachandran</a>  and I tried to make an interview appointment with him when I was in San Diego.  I should have tried harder, but I had jet lag. Next time . . .</p>
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