Comments on: Art for an Artist’s Sake (by Jeffrey Augustine Songco) http://artandperception.com/2007/06/art-for-an-artist%e2%80%99s-sake-by-jeffrey-augustine-songco.html a multi-disciplinary dialog Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:19:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: David http://artandperception.com/2007/06/art-for-an-artist%e2%80%99s-sake-by-jeffrey-augustine-songco.html#comment-20306 David Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:35:03 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/2007/06/art-for-an-artist%e2%80%99s-sake-by-jeffrey-augustine-songco.html#comment-20306 <i>I flip through magazines and find a pretty image, I find a pretty paint color, and then pull out a random color from my pencil/markers/crayon box.</i> I think that's how Rauschenberg works :) I flip through magazines and find a pretty image, I find a pretty paint color, and then pull out a random color from my pencil/markers/crayon box.

I think that’s how Rauschenberg works :)

]]> By: Jeffrey Augustine Songco http://artandperception.com/2007/06/art-for-an-artist%e2%80%99s-sake-by-jeffrey-augustine-songco.html#comment-20302 Jeffrey Augustine Songco Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:22:28 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/2007/06/art-for-an-artist%e2%80%99s-sake-by-jeffrey-augustine-songco.html#comment-20302 Jay, You’re amazing! Thanks for the description. David, You got it, man. My decorative art is merely decorative with no concept behind it. I'm just pouring out my personal aesthetics. Plus, it's cheaper to make something pretty than to go out and buy a poster. It's neat to read that you might see some kind of concept slipping through my decorative art, but such is not the case. I flip through magazines and find a pretty image, I find a pretty paint color, and then pull out a random color from my pencil/markers/crayon box. I enjoy being specific with my color choices in my gallery art, but my decorative art is totally random. Bottom line, I really just let loose and get lost. Sure, they are wonderful exercises, but for my personal definition of gallery art—concept driven work—these decorative pieces are simply not defined that way. Jay,
You’re amazing! Thanks for the description.

David,
You got it, man. My decorative art is merely decorative with no concept behind it. I’m just pouring out my personal aesthetics. Plus, it’s cheaper to make something pretty than to go out and buy a poster.

It’s neat to read that you might see some kind of concept slipping through my decorative art, but such is not the case. I flip through magazines and find a pretty image, I find a pretty paint color, and then pull out a random color from my pencil/markers/crayon box. I enjoy being specific with my color choices in my gallery art, but my decorative art is totally random.

Bottom line, I really just let loose and get lost. Sure, they are wonderful exercises, but for my personal definition of gallery art—concept driven work—these decorative pieces are simply not defined that way.

]]> By: David http://artandperception.com/2007/06/art-for-an-artist%e2%80%99s-sake-by-jeffrey-augustine-songco.html#comment-20143 David Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:48:20 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/2007/06/art-for-an-artist%e2%80%99s-sake-by-jeffrey-augustine-songco.html#comment-20143 Jeffrey, I understand the idea of creating different work with different intentions, but I find it interesting that you call your paintings "decorative art" and the photographs "gallery art". Seems to me that pretty much all visual art has a certain decorative component (including your photograph, which reminds me of Italian Renaissance compostions). Are you saying that your "decorative" art is <i>only</i> decorative (in the sense that it has no concept behind it)? That doesn't appear to be the case. I'm curious as to your thinking on that, not so much why you work in two different ways, but why you choose to use the term "decorative" to describe the paintings. Jeffrey, I understand the idea of creating different work with different intentions, but I find it interesting that you call your paintings “decorative art” and the photographs “gallery art”.

Seems to me that pretty much all visual art has a certain decorative component (including your photograph, which reminds me of Italian Renaissance compostions). Are you saying that your “decorative” art is only decorative (in the sense that it has no concept behind it)? That doesn’t appear to be the case.

I’m curious as to your thinking on that, not so much why you work in two different ways, but why you choose to use the term “decorative” to describe the paintings.

]]> By: Jay Hoffman http://artandperception.com/2007/06/art-for-an-artist%e2%80%99s-sake-by-jeffrey-augustine-songco.html#comment-20047 Jay Hoffman Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:22:16 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/2007/06/art-for-an-artist%e2%80%99s-sake-by-jeffrey-augustine-songco.html#comment-20047 Jeffrey: Walt recreates an icon. As you may be aware, the Old Man in the Mountain fell within the last few years. One could look up upon his craggy visage on Cannon Mountain from various spots on the floor of Franconia Notch in New Hampshire. Your image, looking up at the man, takes me back. The hair catches me. Walt emerges from his primal cloud of charcoal as both old and young: he has a face that only time can create while his hair falls youthfully over his forehead. It reminds me of Steve's last waterfall picture for some reason. Jeffrey:

Walt recreates an icon. As you may be aware, the Old Man in the Mountain fell within the last few years. One could look up upon his craggy visage on Cannon Mountain from various spots on the floor of Franconia Notch in New Hampshire. Your image, looking up at the man, takes me back.

The hair catches me. Walt emerges from his primal cloud of charcoal as both old and young: he has a face that only time can create while his hair falls youthfully over his forehead. It reminds me of Steve’s last waterfall picture for some reason.

]]> By: Steve Durbin http://artandperception.com/2007/06/art-for-an-artist%e2%80%99s-sake-by-jeffrey-augustine-songco.html#comment-19916 Steve Durbin Sun, 10 Jun 2007 03:07:23 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/2007/06/art-for-an-artist%e2%80%99s-sake-by-jeffrey-augustine-songco.html#comment-19916 D., Guess my memory is going. Though I remember some disagreements, I feel in accord with you on this. At least, with the understanding that my apparent looseness/softness in dealing with the gallery so far is more about how I work with people than about any artistic compromise. I feel more and more that my current path will, in fact, lead to my work becoming less salable (until the museums wise up, of course!). I'd rather be wrong, of course... D.,

Guess my memory is going. Though I remember some disagreements, I feel in accord with you on this. At least, with the understanding that my apparent looseness/softness in dealing with the gallery so far is more about how I work with people than about any artistic compromise. I feel more and more that my current path will, in fact, lead to my work becoming less salable (until the museums wise up, of course!). I’d rather be wrong, of course…

]]> By: Jeffrey Augustine Songco http://artandperception.com/2007/06/art-for-an-artist%e2%80%99s-sake-by-jeffrey-augustine-songco.html#comment-19909 Jeffrey Augustine Songco Sun, 10 Jun 2007 02:29:05 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/2007/06/art-for-an-artist%e2%80%99s-sake-by-jeffrey-augustine-songco.html#comment-19909 Steve, Some of my decorative art pieces were, in fact, just lying on the floor. Occasionally I would get a visitor who questioned the disparity between those, and the work on the walls. I had to keep in mind that it was an open studio rather than a gallery reception. However, this was the first time in over a year that I had the opportunity to show gallery art to new people. Of course my former professors advised me stay clear from commerciality, but I just had to go all out. I got some great feedback, so in retrospect, it was a great decision on my part. But let me say for the record, it was definitely stressful thinking about that commercial factor. So, I solved it by creating a pamphlet that described my studio practice and the reason for seeming so commercial. A lot of other things were around too, like sketchbooks, my Nintendo, and personal library—so I tried to have a sense of personal space present as well. Definitely in the future, if I am lucky to have another open studio, I will definitely keep more decorative art on the walls. Steve,
Some of my decorative art pieces were, in fact, just lying on the floor. Occasionally I would get a visitor who questioned the disparity between those, and the work on the walls. I had to keep in mind that it was an open studio rather than a gallery reception. However, this was the first time in over a year that I had the opportunity to show gallery art to new people. Of course my former professors advised me stay clear from commerciality, but I just had to go all out. I got some great feedback, so in retrospect, it was a great decision on my part. But let me say for the record, it was definitely stressful thinking about that commercial factor. So, I solved it by creating a pamphlet that described my studio practice and the reason for seeming so commercial. A lot of other things were around too, like sketchbooks, my Nintendo, and personal library—so I tried to have a sense of personal space present as well. Definitely in the future, if I am lucky to have another open studio, I will definitely keep more decorative art on the walls.

]]> By: D. http://artandperception.com/2007/06/art-for-an-artist%e2%80%99s-sake-by-jeffrey-augustine-songco.html#comment-19904 D. Sun, 10 Jun 2007 01:54:17 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/2007/06/art-for-an-artist%e2%80%99s-sake-by-jeffrey-augustine-songco.html#comment-19904 Steve, I just think artists can get too soft around dealers, hoping... And to go even further, I think if one is too soft, one should reconsider what one is doing in the first place. But that goes back to our discussion about Intentions and that I think we have already agreed to disagree upon. Steve,

I just think artists can get too soft around dealers, hoping…

And to go even further, I think if one is too soft, one should reconsider what one is doing in the first place. But that goes back to our discussion about Intentions and that I think we have already agreed to disagree upon.

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