Comments on: How to link conceptual and process-based art? http://artandperception.com/2007/06/how-to-link-conceptual-and-process-based-art.html a multi-disciplinary dialog Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:28:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Sean McCormick http://artandperception.com/2007/06/how-to-link-conceptual-and-process-based-art.html#comment-26122 Sean McCormick Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:58:21 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/2007/06/how-to-link-conceptual-and-process-based-art.html#comment-26122 Jeffrey: "...one being the Statement. If I just did Y art, my statement would have to keep changing and my body of work would be all over the place." It strikes me that your art is more about the journey and the spontaneity you find in it than the destination itself. Is it wrong to say in your Statement (something I despise, BTW, my art *is* my statement), that your art is an outgrowth of your person and that it grows and evolves as you travel life's path? Jeffrey: “…one being the Statement. If I just did Y art, my statement would have to keep changing and my body of work would be all over the place.”

It strikes me that your art is more about the journey and the spontaneity you find in it than the destination itself. Is it wrong to say in your Statement (something I despise, BTW, my art *is* my statement), that your art is an outgrowth of your person and that it grows and evolves as you travel life’s path?

]]> By: Karl Zipser http://artandperception.com/2007/06/how-to-link-conceptual-and-process-based-art.html#comment-23858 Karl Zipser Tue, 03 Jul 2007 11:52:27 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/2007/06/how-to-link-conceptual-and-process-based-art.html#comment-23858 Sunil, X and Y have morphed in to "conceptual" and "procedural" in the next post. I don't think pre-planned is essential for conceptual, so much as the expression of ideas that can be expressed in verbal form. Conceptual art, it seems to me, is supposed to get you thinking, as opposed to simply feeling. Sunil,

X and Y have morphed in to “conceptual” and “procedural” in the next post. I don’t think pre-planned is essential for conceptual, so much as the expression of ideas that can be expressed in verbal form. Conceptual art, it seems to me, is supposed to get you thinking, as opposed to simply feeling.

]]> By: Jay Hoffman http://artandperception.com/2007/06/how-to-link-conceptual-and-process-based-art.html#comment-23757 Jay Hoffman Mon, 02 Jul 2007 21:01:45 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/2007/06/how-to-link-conceptual-and-process-based-art.html#comment-23757 I can remember as a student the irking presence in the art department of science and engineering majors. These people would come in for a taste of humanity naive as all get out and leave having done the most impressive things. One fellow created a cast aluminum fountain in which the water flowed to the bottom in two intertwined paths. They didn't know the artistic traditions, but they sure could plan and build. I can remember as a student the irking presence in the art department of science and engineering majors. These people would come in for a taste of humanity naive as all get out and leave having done the most impressive things. One fellow created a cast aluminum fountain in which the water flowed to the bottom in two intertwined paths. They didn’t know the artistic traditions, but they sure could plan and build.

]]> By: Sunil Gangadharan http://artandperception.com/2007/06/how-to-link-conceptual-and-process-based-art.html#comment-23748 Sunil Gangadharan Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:33:50 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/2007/06/how-to-link-conceptual-and-process-based-art.html#comment-23748 Karl, In the development of your argument are you referring to X to mean ‘meticulously pre planned’ and Y to mean ‘gloriously free flowing’? I would like to understand this first. This will also help me interpret the graph that you just posted better (which is a good way of looking at this). Karl,
In the development of your argument are you referring to X to mean ‘meticulously pre planned’ and Y to mean ‘gloriously free flowing’? I would like to understand this first. This will also help me interpret the graph that you just posted better (which is a good way of looking at this).

]]> By: Karl Zipser http://artandperception.com/2007/06/how-to-link-conceptual-and-process-based-art.html#comment-23737 Karl Zipser Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:03:08 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/2007/06/how-to-link-conceptual-and-process-based-art.html#comment-23737 Jay, I'm of course not trying to say that art should be like science. The point is more, what can we learn looking at the other discipline. Synthesizing of pigments like vermilion and red lakes is part of the beginning of chemistry. Scientists think in aesthetic dimensions, certainly. Results and theories are describe as beautiful if they are seen that way. Jay,

I’m of course not trying to say that art should be like science. The point is more, what can we learn looking at the other discipline.

Synthesizing of pigments like vermilion and red lakes is part of the beginning of chemistry.

Scientists think in aesthetic dimensions, certainly. Results and theories are describe as beautiful if they are seen that way.

]]> By: Karl Zipser http://artandperception.com/2007/06/how-to-link-conceptual-and-process-based-art.html#comment-23736 Karl Zipser Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:59:50 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/2007/06/how-to-link-conceptual-and-process-based-art.html#comment-23736 <em>The theory is developing along with experiment. Ultimately the findings have to be understood within prevailing general theoretical constructs, and some provisional theories turn out to have been BS. But it’s not always easy to judge when you’re in the middle of it.</em> Steve, Nicely put. The key is that the conceptual in science develops along with the experimental. The theory is developing along with experiment. Ultimately the findings have to be understood within prevailing general theoretical constructs, and some provisional theories turn out to have been BS. But it’s not always easy to judge when you’re in the middle of it.

Steve,

Nicely put. The key is that the conceptual in science develops along with the experimental.

]]> By: Karl Zipser http://artandperception.com/2007/06/how-to-link-conceptual-and-process-based-art.html#comment-23735 Karl Zipser Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:57:10 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/2007/06/how-to-link-conceptual-and-process-based-art.html#comment-23735 June, Working from the conception to the art, or from the art to the conception -- which is the better approach. I prefer to work from the art -- although I don't think of this a purely procedural. Where I am now is trying to work out the conceptual of what I have already made. Your comment and Jays point to the fact that the conceptual versus procedural does not capture everything about art. What about the emotional, for example? I wonder how many dimensions that would encompass. June,

Working from the conception to the art, or from the art to the conception — which is the better approach. I prefer to work from the art — although I don’t think of this a purely procedural. Where I am now is trying to work out the conceptual of what I have already made. Your comment and Jays point to the fact that the conceptual versus procedural does not capture everything about art. What about the emotional, for example? I wonder how many dimensions that would encompass.

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