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	<title>Comments on: Manhattan Men In Motion</title>
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		<title>By: Sunil Gangadharan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunil Gangadharan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard,
The second photo is a classic. 
I roam the streets of Manhattan trying to get close up head shots as source subjects for my paintings. Most of the people that I photograph this way are the homeless, ex-prostitutes, panhandlers and sometimes out-of-work people. I like to hear their stories before asking them if I may take a picture. When I first saw your pictures late yesterday afternoon, I could not help reflect on the air on nonchalance in your pictures as opposed to the strain that I see on faces when I ask someone to pose for me... Nice shots...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,<br />
The second photo is a classic.<br />
I roam the streets of Manhattan trying to get close up head shots as source subjects for my paintings. Most of the people that I photograph this way are the homeless, ex-prostitutes, panhandlers and sometimes out-of-work people. I like to hear their stories before asking them if I may take a picture. When I first saw your pictures late yesterday afternoon, I could not help reflect on the air on nonchalance in your pictures as opposed to the strain that I see on faces when I ask someone to pose for me&#8230; Nice shots&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Augustine Songco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Augustine Songco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 07:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard,
I love how the second photo captures your thoughts perfectly.  What a moment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,<br />
I love how the second photo captures your thoughts perfectly.  What a moment!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rothstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Rothstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 00:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Even the nice ones seem to think they own more than their allotment of the available space."

This seems to be particularly true with the American White Christian Male.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Even the nice ones seem to think they own more than their allotment of the available space.&#8221;</p>
<p>This seems to be particularly true with the American White Christian Male.</p>
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		<title>By: June</title>
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		<dc:creator>June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 19:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard,

I hadn't noticed the gender differences in walking style, but when I think about it, it seems valid. My husband can't stand to stroll about the neighborhood -- he needs a goal, even when we both know it's an artificial one. And he walks with little awareness of what's around him -- he doesn't see the neighborhood, he abstracts ideas from it. 

I wouldn't make too big a thing of it, and he is actually starting to see things like flowers (real species, not abstract notions like "micro-climates"). But in some part of his gendered being, setting forth is going somewhere and thinking about ideas so you aren't wasting your time walking is part of going there.

Your photos of the male animal are wonderful. As a straight female, I can say I appreciate them in a definitively gendered way.

But have you noticed how men sit on buses -- with their legs spread apart, taking up a seat and a half. Even the nice ones seem to think they own more than their allotment of the available space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t noticed the gender differences in walking style, but when I think about it, it seems valid. My husband can&#8217;t stand to stroll about the neighborhood &#8212; he needs a goal, even when we both know it&#8217;s an artificial one. And he walks with little awareness of what&#8217;s around him &#8212; he doesn&#8217;t see the neighborhood, he abstracts ideas from it. </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t make too big a thing of it, and he is actually starting to see things like flowers (real species, not abstract notions like &#8220;micro-climates&#8221;). But in some part of his gendered being, setting forth is going somewhere and thinking about ideas so you aren&#8217;t wasting your time walking is part of going there.</p>
<p>Your photos of the male animal are wonderful. As a straight female, I can say I appreciate them in a definitively gendered way.</p>
<p>But have you noticed how men sit on buses &#8212; with their legs spread apart, taking up a seat and a half. Even the nice ones seem to think they own more than their allotment of the available space.</p>
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		<title>By: birgit</title>
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		<dc:creator>birgit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assertive stride! 

I always knew that my fast stride, acquired through keeping up with big dogs along Frisian dykes, saved me from being harmed when, as a young woman, I conquered a slice of Manhattan - from 125th to China town - by foot. 

Reading your  post, I am thinking that in the winter, I may have been mistaken for a boy, wearing sneakers, pants and a pea coat; during warmer weather, I may have given the impression of a transsexual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assertive stride! </p>
<p>I always knew that my fast stride, acquired through keeping up with big dogs along Frisian dykes, saved me from being harmed when, as a young woman, I conquered a slice of Manhattan - from 125th to China town - by foot. </p>
<p>Reading your  post, I am thinking that in the winter, I may have been mistaken for a boy, wearing sneakers, pants and a pea coat; during warmer weather, I may have given the impression of a transsexual.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Zipser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Zipser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Men are going somewhere and they are focused on that–even if it’s nowhere–almost oblivious to there surroundings.  Women are observers.&lt;/em&gt;

Richard, you've got me here, but I didn't realize it was a gender thing.

You're Manhattan photos always make me miss my birth-city, though I never looked at it this way before.

I did an afternoon of random photos here in Haarlem some weeks ago. I was shooting from the chest as I walked the streets. Here is an &lt;a href="http://www.artandperception.com/2007/04/dealers-are-artists-their-medium-is-art.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;example&lt;/a&gt; of the results. I see I have captured by accident something of what you describe: focused male motion, with less focused female strolling. Not definitive proof of your hypothesis, but interesting.

Richard,

Nice to see you here again. I was missing your posts lately!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Men are going somewhere and they are focused on that–even if it’s nowhere–almost oblivious to there surroundings.  Women are observers.</em></p>
<p>Richard, you&#8217;ve got me here, but I didn&#8217;t realize it was a gender thing.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re Manhattan photos always make me miss my birth-city, though I never looked at it this way before.</p>
<p>I did an afternoon of random photos here in Haarlem some weeks ago. I was shooting from the chest as I walked the streets. Here is an <a href="http://www.artandperception.com/2007/04/dealers-are-artists-their-medium-is-art.html"  rel="nofollow">example</a> of the results. I see I have captured by accident something of what you describe: focused male motion, with less focused female strolling. Not definitive proof of your hypothesis, but interesting.</p>
<p>Richard,</p>
<p>Nice to see you here again. I was missing your posts lately!</p>
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