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	<title>Comments on: On the degree of satisfaction art movements offer</title>
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		<title>By: Karl Zipser</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/07/on-the-degree-of-satisfaction-art-movements-offer.html#comment-28212</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Zipser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The era of Individualism (or specialized personalized art) is here."

Sunil,

Didn't this begin a long long time ago?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The era of Individualism (or specialized personalized art) is here.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sunil,</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t this begin a long long time ago?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Augustine Songco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Augustine Songco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunil,

iMyYou is totally in the same vein as your idea of Individualism.  However, your descriptive post, to me, seems to discuss the way a movement (specifically Individualism) is formed (e.g., "the ‘new’ art will involve ever smaller groups of people...", "an era where satisfaction levels would be higher among smaller groups...", and "When the numbers of such groups increase...") rather the about the concept of Individualism.  Your descriptive cultural perception reveals the necessary steps towards the creation of the Individual Movement (like whatever cultural precursors led to the Pop Movement or the Conceptual Movement), but I don't believe you necessarily describe what artistic elements make up the movement.  What are the colors of the movement and why? What media are being used in the movement and why?  Sure, any color and any medium could be used, but I think the trend within that movement that the artists subscribe to is what defines that movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunil,</p>
<p>iMyYou is totally in the same vein as your idea of Individualism.  However, your descriptive post, to me, seems to discuss the way a movement (specifically Individualism) is formed (e.g., &#8220;the ‘new’ art will involve ever smaller groups of people&#8230;&#8221;, &#8220;an era where satisfaction levels would be higher among smaller groups&#8230;&#8221;, and &#8220;When the numbers of such groups increase&#8230;&#8221;) rather the about the concept of Individualism.  Your descriptive cultural perception reveals the necessary steps towards the creation of the Individual Movement (like whatever cultural precursors led to the Pop Movement or the Conceptual Movement), but I don&#8217;t believe you necessarily describe what artistic elements make up the movement.  What are the colors of the movement and why? What media are being used in the movement and why?  Sure, any color and any medium could be used, but I think the trend within that movement that the artists subscribe to is what defines that movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunil Gangadharan</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/07/on-the-degree-of-satisfaction-art-movements-offer.html#comment-27390</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunil Gangadharan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay,
As cheese tends to come multiple flavors, textures and varieties these days, the rats racing for the cheese also tend to indulge in ever more sophisticated race patterns...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay,<br />
As cheese tends to come multiple flavors, textures and varieties these days, the rats racing for the cheese also tend to indulge in ever more sophisticated race patterns&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sunil Gangadharan</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/07/on-the-degree-of-satisfaction-art-movements-offer.html#comment-27388</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunil Gangadharan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffrey,
Isn’t IMyYou another example of what I just talked about? Or maybe I did not understand the concept behind IMyYou...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffrey,<br />
Isn’t IMyYou another example of what I just talked about? Or maybe I did not understand the concept behind IMyYou&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sunil Gangadharan</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/07/on-the-degree-of-satisfaction-art-movements-offer.html#comment-27387</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunil Gangadharan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,
I think blogs, group exhibitions around themes, meta aggregators and like phenomena would rule the fragmented but exciting world of tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,<br />
I think blogs, group exhibitions around themes, meta aggregators and like phenomena would rule the fragmented but exciting world of tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Hoffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunil:

I'm surprised that you neglected to include Individualistic Art Movement "F".

Please listen to the man - I do. steve would like you to re-cast your graph in your own style. The one you have up is so July 19, 2007, 2:07 p.m. Play your cards right and the IAM "G" can be all yours.

Reminiscence time: it's 1969 or thereabouts, and the art school student body would hurry to the library for the art mags just in - Artforum especially.Therein they would find identified the newest pole stars and where in the sky to find them. It was a rat race keeping up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunil:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised that you neglected to include Individualistic Art Movement &#8220;F&#8221;.</p>
<p>Please listen to the man - I do. steve would like you to re-cast your graph in your own style. The one you have up is so July 19, 2007, 2:07 p.m. Play your cards right and the IAM &#8220;G&#8221; can be all yours.</p>
<p>Reminiscence time: it&#8217;s 1969 or thereabouts, and the art school student body would hurry to the library for the art mags just in - Artforum especially.Therein they would find identified the newest pole stars and where in the sky to find them. It was a rat race keeping up.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Augustine Songco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Augustine Songco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunil,

Isn't the point of an art movement, as shown through history, supposed to be exclusive?  I think that your perception of "ever smaller groups" forming is right on, but simply how a movement begins--five people doing their thing, they have a group show, and its hailed by the New York Times (e.g., &lt;a href="http://www.artandperception.com/2007/05/queer-art-or-is-all-art-queer.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Richar's post about The Times's Gay Art Movement&lt;/a&gt;)

I would think that the Pop movement was super fun, especially for everyone living in that period of time aside from Andy, Roy, and Keith.  The Pop Art art movement is a part of society that makes up the entire Cultural movement of the moment.

I kind of disagree that a movement of Individualism, as you define it, is here.  In fact, perhaps Individualism is here, but just not as you define it.  I don't believe what you said is necessarily the definition of the movement, but more simply, a way people interact with art.  It's true that access to art is way easy, but small groups of artists will always be present.  Imagine if something becomes really popular on the Internet?  That, I believe, is when the movement is formed.

I am by no means an Art Critic, one who can eloquently write about a growing art movement, but I've attempted to rally the ranks with &lt;a href="http://gus23.wordpress.com/2007/04/12/imyyou/" rel="nofollow"&gt;my own blog post&lt;/a&gt; and start a group that could ultimately start a movement.  You might find it interesting, as my the first two lines state:  "I’m interested in the direction pop culture is moving. It’s very apparent that there is an American cultural stress on the individual".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunil,</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t the point of an art movement, as shown through history, supposed to be exclusive?  I think that your perception of &#8220;ever smaller groups&#8221; forming is right on, but simply how a movement begins&#8211;five people doing their thing, they have a group show, and its hailed by the New York Times (e.g., <a href="http://www.artandperception.com/2007/05/queer-art-or-is-all-art-queer.html"  rel="nofollow">Richar&#8217;s post about The Times&#8217;s Gay Art Movement</a>)</p>
<p>I would think that the Pop movement was super fun, especially for everyone living in that period of time aside from Andy, Roy, and Keith.  The Pop Art art movement is a part of society that makes up the entire Cultural movement of the moment.</p>
<p>I kind of disagree that a movement of Individualism, as you define it, is here.  In fact, perhaps Individualism is here, but just not as you define it.  I don&#8217;t believe what you said is necessarily the definition of the movement, but more simply, a way people interact with art.  It&#8217;s true that access to art is way easy, but small groups of artists will always be present.  Imagine if something becomes really popular on the Internet?  That, I believe, is when the movement is formed.</p>
<p>I am by no means an Art Critic, one who can eloquently write about a growing art movement, but I&#8217;ve attempted to rally the ranks with <a href="http://gus23.wordpress.com/2007/04/12/imyyou/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/gus23.wordpress.com');" rel="nofollow">my own blog post</a> and start a group that could ultimately start a movement.  You might find it interesting, as my the first two lines state:  &#8220;I’m interested in the direction pop culture is moving. It’s very apparent that there is an American cultural stress on the individual&#8221;.</p>
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