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		<title>By: Jay Hoffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do they all record what a place looked like at a particular moment? Which place is it?

Steve:

That place where science and Eastern mysticism  meet. 

Looking again at the images, I see something that I missed before: the sky. The blank ordinariness of the sky with no hint of  reflection, allows me to stand the image up into an orientation more akin to ordinary viewing. This way the trees are no longer peered into but more across. As such the dimpling and the puckering become as something alive in the air. 

Somehow the term &quot;moment&quot; doesn&#039;t seem to apply anymore than an image of a wave crashing on a shore describes a moment. Technically, yes. But the averaging out as successive, and almost identical, waves crash speaks more to me of the larger context within which the action takes place.  So I have to admit, based on the evidence,  that I have no idea where or when these images were gathered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do they all record what a place looked like at a particular moment? Which place is it?</p>
<p>Steve:</p>
<p>That place where science and Eastern mysticism  meet. </p>
<p>Looking again at the images, I see something that I missed before: the sky. The blank ordinariness of the sky with no hint of  reflection, allows me to stand the image up into an orientation more akin to ordinary viewing. This way the trees are no longer peered into but more across. As such the dimpling and the puckering become as something alive in the air. </p>
<p>Somehow the term &#8220;moment&#8221; doesn&#8217;t seem to apply anymore than an image of a wave crashing on a shore describes a moment. Technically, yes. But the averaging out as successive, and almost identical, waves crash speaks more to me of the larger context within which the action takes place.  So I have to admit, based on the evidence,  that I have no idea where or when these images were gathered.</p>
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		<title>By: June</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/09/reflections-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-35200</link>
		<dc:creator>June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

These are interesting, but feel like one-offs to me. I don&#039;t know where to go with them. I&#039;m afraid I yearn for a mysterious narrative or a grand design or a fearsome spectacle --alas, a meaning.......

Capturing the surface, with the tecnical difficulties involved, might be what you are working with. But I&#039;m thinking of Escher&#039;s leaves in a puddle (not it&#039;s name but what I call it) which has all kinds of resonance for me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puddle_(M._C._Escher)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>These are interesting, but feel like one-offs to me. I don&#8217;t know where to go with them. I&#8217;m afraid I yearn for a mysterious narrative or a grand design or a fearsome spectacle &#8211;alas, a meaning&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Capturing the surface, with the tecnical difficulties involved, might be what you are working with. But I&#8217;m thinking of Escher&#8217;s leaves in a puddle (not it&#8217;s name but what I call it) which has all kinds of resonance for me.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puddle_(M._C._Escher)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puddle_(M._C._Escher)</a></p>
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		<title>By: D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Two Leads: 

Rodney Graham&#039;s &quot;How I Became a Ramblin’ Man.&quot; (1999)

Lee Walton&#039;s &quot;One Shot a Day.&quot; (2003)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Two Leads: </p>
<p>Rodney Graham&#8217;s &#8220;How I Became a Ramblin’ Man.&#8221; (1999)</p>
<p>Lee Walton&#8217;s &#8220;One Shot a Day.&#8221; (2003)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Durbin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Durbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D.,

Thank you, I love &quot;Real watercolors.&quot; The idea of video has been mentioned before, but though it makes sense in principle, I&#039;m embarrassed to say that the more art video I see, the less I like it. With the exception of your waterfall. I&#039;d appreciate any leads other than Viola. But I think it&#039;s me; for artistic purposes, I&#039;d rather look at a still picture or read a still book and let my mind wander. Narrow, I&#039;m sure.

Jay,
Don&#039;t know that Bergman, but I&#039;ll see if I can get it. The title sure fits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D.,</p>
<p>Thank you, I love &#8220;Real watercolors.&#8221; The idea of video has been mentioned before, but though it makes sense in principle, I&#8217;m embarrassed to say that the more art video I see, the less I like it. With the exception of your waterfall. I&#8217;d appreciate any leads other than Viola. But I think it&#8217;s me; for artistic purposes, I&#8217;d rather look at a still picture or read a still book and let my mind wander. Narrow, I&#8217;m sure.</p>
<p>Jay,<br />
Don&#8217;t know that Bergman, but I&#8217;ll see if I can get it. The title sure fits.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Hoffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve:

May I suggest &quot;Through The Glass Darkly&quot; by Ingmar Bergman for the second image. 

I thought first &quot;waterbugs&quot; when I saw that surface, but it reminds me more of the turbulence associated with a spring. Moreover, it might be that trout of yours, wending its refracted and unseen way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve:</p>
<p>May I suggest &#8220;Through The Glass Darkly&#8221; by Ingmar Bergman for the second image. </p>
<p>I thought first &#8220;waterbugs&#8221; when I saw that surface, but it reminds me more of the turbulence associated with a spring. Moreover, it might be that trout of yours, wending its refracted and unseen way.</p>
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		<title>By: D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Terrific.  Glints.  They are sort of Real watercolors.  Video?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Terrific.  Glints.  They are sort of Real watercolors.  Video?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Durbin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Durbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tree,

Your statement is correct, but actually I did not notice any change in the light or the scene over the minute or so I was taking pictures (though of course there were slight changes).

I was pressed for time when I wrote this, and the point is not very clearly developed that the different emotional impacts are influenced by the photographer&#039;s choices. A simple record of the scene simply does not exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tree,</p>
<p>Your statement is correct, but actually I did not notice any change in the light or the scene over the minute or so I was taking pictures (though of course there were slight changes).</p>
<p>I was pressed for time when I wrote this, and the point is not very clearly developed that the different emotional impacts are influenced by the photographer&#8217;s choices. A simple record of the scene simply does not exist.</p>
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