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		<title>By: Martha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 19:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the word &quot;practice&quot; has also come to have the positive implication borrowed from meditation, zen or otherwise. In the literature about that, one&#039;s meditation work is often called one&#039;s practice.

R.S. is privileging a tempest in a teapot, as far as I can see. 

But isn&#039;t it also funny how, if you read an artist statement before seeing the work,  99% of the time the words would not anticipate what the visual reality is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the word &#8220;practice&#8221; has also come to have the positive implication borrowed from meditation, zen or otherwise. In the literature about that, one&#8217;s meditation work is often called one&#8217;s practice.</p>
<p>R.S. is privileging a tempest in a teapot, as far as I can see. </p>
<p>But isn&#8217;t it also funny how, if you read an artist statement before seeing the work,  99% of the time the words would not anticipate what the visual reality is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: June</title>
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		<dc:creator>June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 16:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sunil and all,

I am only bothered by the use of &quot;practice&quot; when it is clearly referencing the licensed utilization of artistic skills priveliging those with academic credentials.[add snort here]

And I am thoroughly frustrated by &quot;referencing&quot; since I don&#039;t think the referral to deconstruction and high-tone theories is meaningful, except to those who have already imbibed the dregs of the vinegarish wine of Derrida (sorry, Steve). It&#039;s very like the business use of &quot;utilization&quot; where it has become the word of obfuscating choice (see above&quot;)  We may be stuck with it, but I don&#039;t have to like it.

&quot;Privileging&quot; I think is better -- it has a very specific kind of connotation and is shorthand for what would be a mouthful to explain. I think it is useful even if it does reference an academic sort of techno-speak.

But back to the main question that Sunil broaches: what is the aim of art?  I have to bow to McFawn&#039;s emendation of Smith&#039;s concepts:

&quot;Good art slows the world down and shows us the dimensionality in even the most transient of experiences. Art is perpendicular to life: if a lifetime is a horizontal and forward-moving, art is vertical–showing us the heights and depths in moments from which we are compelled to move on. Art may not fix the problems of the world, but it shows us the fullness of what’s at stake.&quot; http://www.litandart.com/

I like McFawn&#039;s concept because it sidesteps questions of self-examination or political statement, both of which can exist in given works of art but are essentially beside the point. I don&#039;t think Sunil&#039;s portraits will change anybody&#039;s mind or actions vis-a-vis tragic lives. But they do arrest us, stop us in our tracks and make us consider -- consider what? well,possibly his technical prowess, or the plight of the human condition, or the nature of &quot;progress,&quot; or the irony of digitized portraiture in a hungry world, or the disgusting state of our own braggadocio or whether we can send more money to the local food bank.

The stopped state that art provokes can go in many directions -- the important thing is that we get stopped.

And this may be why we all resent the 15 seconds or so of viewing that most art gets from viewers. But that&#039;s a different subject altogether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sunil and all,</p>
<p>I am only bothered by the use of &#8220;practice&#8221; when it is clearly referencing the licensed utilization of artistic skills priveliging those with academic credentials.[add snort here]</p>
<p>And I am thoroughly frustrated by &#8220;referencing&#8221; since I don&#8217;t think the referral to deconstruction and high-tone theories is meaningful, except to those who have already imbibed the dregs of the vinegarish wine of Derrida (sorry, Steve). It&#8217;s very like the business use of &#8220;utilization&#8221; where it has become the word of obfuscating choice (see above&#8221;)  We may be stuck with it, but I don&#8217;t have to like it.</p>
<p>&#8220;Privileging&#8221; I think is better &#8212; it has a very specific kind of connotation and is shorthand for what would be a mouthful to explain. I think it is useful even if it does reference an academic sort of techno-speak.</p>
<p>But back to the main question that Sunil broaches: what is the aim of art?  I have to bow to McFawn&#8217;s emendation of Smith&#8217;s concepts:</p>
<p>&#8220;Good art slows the world down and shows us the dimensionality in even the most transient of experiences. Art is perpendicular to life: if a lifetime is a horizontal and forward-moving, art is vertical–showing us the heights and depths in moments from which we are compelled to move on. Art may not fix the problems of the world, but it shows us the fullness of what’s at stake.&#8221; <a href="http://www.litandart.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.litandart.com/</a></p>
<p>I like McFawn&#8217;s concept because it sidesteps questions of self-examination or political statement, both of which can exist in given works of art but are essentially beside the point. I don&#8217;t think Sunil&#8217;s portraits will change anybody&#8217;s mind or actions vis-a-vis tragic lives. But they do arrest us, stop us in our tracks and make us consider &#8212; consider what? well,possibly his technical prowess, or the plight of the human condition, or the nature of &#8220;progress,&#8221; or the irony of digitized portraiture in a hungry world, or the disgusting state of our own braggadocio or whether we can send more money to the local food bank.</p>
<p>The stopped state that art provokes can go in many directions &#8212; the important thing is that we get stopped.</p>
<p>And this may be why we all resent the 15 seconds or so of viewing that most art gets from viewers. But that&#8217;s a different subject altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: McFawn</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/12/art-self-healing-or-big-picture.html/comment-page-1#comment-61653</link>
		<dc:creator>McFawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 01:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunil-

Good response.  I started to write a longer reply here but it became so long &amp; ramble-y that I posted it at my site, http://www.litandart.com with the appropriate citing/shout out to your post.

I thought it was strange that Smith was so bothered by the word practice...and I thought you made a good point about how great art often comes from an artist thinking--and wanting to solve something--beyond their subjective selfhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunil-</p>
<p>Good response.  I started to write a longer reply here but it became so long &amp; ramble-y that I posted it at my site, <a href="http://www.litandart.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.litandart.com</a> with the appropriate citing/shout out to your post.</p>
<p>I thought it was strange that Smith was so bothered by the word practice&#8230;and I thought you made a good point about how great art often comes from an artist thinking&#8211;and wanting to solve something&#8211;beyond their subjective selfhood.</p>
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		<title>By: Birgit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Birgit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 13:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Smith&#039;s verbal perception is only &#039;So so!

ALLEN VEANER&#039;s letter to the NYTimes editor

Ms. Smith, referring to a work by the German painter Martin Kippenberger, writes that it is &#039;&#039;labeled with &#039;preis,&#039; the German word for price.&#039;&#039; While it is true that preis means price, the word has many meanings, one of which is prize or award. I suspect that the title &#039;&#039;2. Preis.&#039;&#039; is an expression of irony referring to &#039;&#039;second prize.&#039;&#039;

Allen Veaner is correct!
http://kunstverein-bs.de/jahresgaben_2001/martin_kippenberger_2_preis.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Smith&#8217;s verbal perception is only &#8216;So so!</p>
<p>ALLEN VEANER&#8217;s letter to the NYTimes editor</p>
<p>Ms. Smith, referring to a work by the German painter Martin Kippenberger, writes that it is &#8221;labeled with &#8216;preis,&#8217; the German word for price.&#8221; While it is true that preis means price, the word has many meanings, one of which is prize or award. I suspect that the title &#8221;2. Preis.&#8221; is an expression of irony referring to &#8216;&#8217;second prize.&#8221;</p>
<p>Allen Veaner is correct!<br />
<a href="http://kunstverein-bs.de/jahresgaben_2001/martin_kippenberger_2_preis.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://kunstverein-bs.de/jahresgaben_2001/martin_kippenberger_2_preis.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve Durbin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Durbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 07:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunil,

Thanks for calling this one to our attention; it&#039;s quite apropos for a site that&#039;s so full (too full?) of talk about art. 

As a language fan, I don&#039;t believe in synonyms, though I certainly see plenty of poor word choice. &quot;Referencing&quot; may have roughly the same denotation as &quot;referring to,&quot; but it is used in quite different contexts and suggests a whole postmodern theoretical framework. It&#039;s a much better word (because it conveys so much more) IF one wants all that, and IF one has understood correctly the audience&#039;s reaction. If used only to impress, without awareness of how pretentious it sounds to most, it will probably have the opposite effect. 

Smith seems most bothered by &quot;practice.&quot; I never took this in the sense of a professional practice, but rather as meaning one&#039;s habitual way of working, which I think most artists have, despite the unpredictabilities of it. Perhaps the New York usage is different. If I trust her ear on this, then I conclude there are different language communities even within the art world. Not necessarily a bad thing if we just remember it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunil,</p>
<p>Thanks for calling this one to our attention; it&#8217;s quite apropos for a site that&#8217;s so full (too full?) of talk about art. </p>
<p>As a language fan, I don&#8217;t believe in synonyms, though I certainly see plenty of poor word choice. &#8220;Referencing&#8221; may have roughly the same denotation as &#8220;referring to,&#8221; but it is used in quite different contexts and suggests a whole postmodern theoretical framework. It&#8217;s a much better word (because it conveys so much more) IF one wants all that, and IF one has understood correctly the audience&#8217;s reaction. If used only to impress, without awareness of how pretentious it sounds to most, it will probably have the opposite effect. </p>
<p>Smith seems most bothered by &#8220;practice.&#8221; I never took this in the sense of a professional practice, but rather as meaning one&#8217;s habitual way of working, which I think most artists have, despite the unpredictabilities of it. Perhaps the New York usage is different. If I trust her ear on this, then I conclude there are different language communities even within the art world. Not necessarily a bad thing if we just remember it.</p>
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