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		<title>By: Steve Durbin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Durbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martha,

Good observation, I was noticing those stones today myself. I don&#039;t think they had any function, but I&#039;m not sure. I didn&#039;t approach any closer than you see from the picture, in fact I cropped out a bit of foreground, so Iwas farther than it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martha,</p>
<p>Good observation, I was noticing those stones today myself. I don&#8217;t think they had any function, but I&#8217;m not sure. I didn&#8217;t approach any closer than you see from the picture, in fact I cropped out a bit of foreground, so Iwas farther than it looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am intrigued by the two stones that flank the door of the shack picture. They seem to be the only self-conscious/non-practical items placed by the inhabitant(s), but echo the symmetry of the structure and the symmetry (and material) of the Mayan structure. Or perhaps they were signs, or for sale, and therefore practical??? Just curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am intrigued by the two stones that flank the door of the shack picture. They seem to be the only self-conscious/non-practical items placed by the inhabitant(s), but echo the symmetry of the structure and the symmetry (and material) of the Mayan structure. Or perhaps they were signs, or for sale, and therefore practical??? Just curious.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It meshes with it on the right, but also lines up with it on the left. Look at the way the tree/sky line meets the color break on the shack. It does so on the right as well, but with a very different color relationship, and therefore a different perception of depth. These things create pictorial tension with contradictory visual cues. Good painting! Um, photo...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It meshes with it on the right, but also lines up with it on the left. Look at the way the tree/sky line meets the color break on the shack. It does so on the right as well, but with a very different color relationship, and therefore a different perception of depth. These things create pictorial tension with contradictory visual cues. Good painting! Um, photo&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Durbin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Durbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Thanks for the comment, I&#039;ve just been reading about Hoffman and push-pull, but hadn&#039;t thought about it here. I had noticed, when I viewed the shack picture, that it does somewhat mesh in with the landscape, especially on the right. Hmmm, this is a whole new angle on color I have to ponder...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment, I&#8217;ve just been reading about Hoffman and push-pull, but hadn&#8217;t thought about it here. I had noticed, when I viewed the shack picture, that it does somewhat mesh in with the landscape, especially on the right. Hmmm, this is a whole new angle on color I have to ponder&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2008/02/separation-issues.html/comment-page-1#comment-79420</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, I agree that the first and last images are the best of the group. The first one has a strength that is both conceptual and compositional, which I think everyone is responding to here. I personally like the fact that the tone and texture of the two elements merge. It allows the viewer to discover the relationships without hitting you over the head with them.

As far as the last image, yes the color is a big element, but it&#039;s not just that the colors are attractive, it&#039;s what the colors are &lt;i&gt;doing&lt;/i&gt;. The thing that strikes me about it is the way the landscape seems to run &lt;i&gt;through&lt;/i&gt; the shack, while the shack struggles to separate itself from the background. It&#039;s what Hans Hoffman would have called &quot;push-pull&quot; in describing the phenomenon in painting. It is a result of the way you lined things up in your composition. Another photo of the same shack from a slightly different angle would have just been a pretty picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, I agree that the first and last images are the best of the group. The first one has a strength that is both conceptual and compositional, which I think everyone is responding to here. I personally like the fact that the tone and texture of the two elements merge. It allows the viewer to discover the relationships without hitting you over the head with them.</p>
<p>As far as the last image, yes the color is a big element, but it&#8217;s not just that the colors are attractive, it&#8217;s what the colors are <i>doing</i>. The thing that strikes me about it is the way the landscape seems to run <i>through</i> the shack, while the shack struggles to separate itself from the background. It&#8217;s what Hans Hoffman would have called &#8220;push-pull&#8221; in describing the phenomenon in painting. It is a result of the way you lined things up in your composition. Another photo of the same shack from a slightly different angle would have just been a pretty picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Durbin</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2008/02/separation-issues.html/comment-page-1#comment-79252</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Durbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>June,

Yes, I was lucky with the clouds; a &quot;perfect&quot; day would have made me miserable. Also yes about the combination being effective. I did in fact have both in my very first, small exhibit.

Charles,

Thank you, I&#039;m glad that comes across to you. I just morn for the paltry take from such a rich and fascinating place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>June,</p>
<p>Yes, I was lucky with the clouds; a &#8220;perfect&#8221; day would have made me miserable. Also yes about the combination being effective. I did in fact have both in my very first, small exhibit.</p>
<p>Charles,</p>
<p>Thank you, I&#8217;m glad that comes across to you. I just morn for the paltry take from such a rich and fascinating place.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Durbin</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2008/02/separation-issues.html/comment-page-1#comment-79249</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Durbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay,

Your comment is apropos, as my idea was that an old pyramid might indeed look pretty much like a pile of rubble. But I agree this should be more clear, perhaps by a ploy such as making remnant structure more evident. In a full print you could see better that there is actually some layering to the upper parts of the apparent pile. Also, I think I would be content to let context work in a group of images, rather than hit the point too hard with each individually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay,</p>
<p>Your comment is apropos, as my idea was that an old pyramid might indeed look pretty much like a pile of rubble. But I agree this should be more clear, perhaps by a ploy such as making remnant structure more evident. In a full print you could see better that there is actually some layering to the upper parts of the apparent pile. Also, I think I would be content to let context work in a group of images, rather than hit the point too hard with each individually.</p>
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