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		<title>By: Steve Durbin</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2008/04/the-fourth-state.html/comment-page-1#comment-100116</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Durbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>June, 

I changed nothing with the pictures. Unfortunately, this sort of thing depends on one&#039;s monitor settings (are you at the same computer?) as well as state of enlightenment (are you feeling brighter today?) 

I appreciate your earlier compliment, as in fact it is non-trivial to bring the mist out well, showing the structure in it while getting the brightness level right in relation to the rest of the image. In a simple snapshot it would either appear too bright and washed out, or the darker areas would be pure black, with no detail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>June, </p>
<p>I changed nothing with the pictures. Unfortunately, this sort of thing depends on one&#8217;s monitor settings (are you at the same computer?) as well as state of enlightenment (are you feeling brighter today?) </p>
<p>I appreciate your earlier compliment, as in fact it is non-trivial to bring the mist out well, showing the structure in it while getting the brightness level right in relation to the rest of the image. In a simple snapshot it would either appear too bright and washed out, or the darker areas would be pure black, with no detail.</p>
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		<title>By: June</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2008/04/the-fourth-state.html/comment-page-1#comment-100070</link>
		<dc:creator>June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Did you change the photos to enhance the light and darken the undershadows? Or are my eyes (or memory or environment) playing tricks on me?

Today the vapors seem far more lit than they did yesterday!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Did you change the photos to enhance the light and darken the undershadows? Or are my eyes (or memory or environment) playing tricks on me?</p>
<p>Today the vapors seem far more lit than they did yesterday!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve:

Saw a wonderful sun dog - if that is indeed what it was - from the window of a plane as it came in to land. The shadow of the aircraft as it raced over the ground was surrounded by a bright halo, in somewhat separated colors. The apparition continued to draw near until it met us at the end of the runway.

and, yes, 50 degrees F is hardly conducive to clouds of ice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve:</p>
<p>Saw a wonderful sun dog &#8211; if that is indeed what it was &#8211; from the window of a plane as it came in to land. The shadow of the aircraft as it raced over the ground was surrounded by a bright halo, in somewhat separated colors. The apparition continued to draw near until it met us at the end of the runway.</p>
<p>and, yes, 50 degrees F is hardly conducive to clouds of ice.</p>
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		<title>By: birgit</title>
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		<dc:creator>birgit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

I did not make myself clear. I love looking at your waterfalls here on A&amp;P. 

What I had in mind was the sequence of the different states of water that you are assembling for publication. Introducing the mists into the sequence will prevent the viewer´s eyes from glazing over from too much repetition of similar images.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>I did not make myself clear. I love looking at your waterfalls here on A&amp;P. </p>
<p>What I had in mind was the sequence of the different states of water that you are assembling for publication. Introducing the mists into the sequence will prevent the viewer´s eyes from glazing over from too much repetition of similar images.</p>
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		<title>By: birgit</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2008/04/the-fourth-state.html/comment-page-1#comment-99902</link>
		<dc:creator>birgit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 08:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

With your intrepidity, you are the Robert Capa of A&amp;P:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>With your intrepidity, you are the Robert Capa of A&amp;P:</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Durbin</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2008/04/the-fourth-state.html/comment-page-1#comment-99846</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Durbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 04:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay,

The problem with rainbows is they&#039;re usually faint, so they are usually less prominent in black and white, which lacks the sequence of adjacent colors to catch the eye&#039;s notice. Of course, there are tricks to enhancing a rainbow, but I have only one phto of a rather poor one, so I&#039;ve never tried.

The mist is water droplets, not ice, though maybe it could be ice crystals on a very cold winter day. In that case, one can see a phenomenon called &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_dog&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sun dogs&lt;/a&gt; when looking toward the sun. But despite the lingering snow and ice, my visit was on a warm day 50&#039;s F. However, to capture the best rainbow I would probably have to be beside the falls, not too far from the bottom, looking away from the sun. There are limits to my intrepidity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay,</p>
<p>The problem with rainbows is they&#8217;re usually faint, so they are usually less prominent in black and white, which lacks the sequence of adjacent colors to catch the eye&#8217;s notice. Of course, there are tricks to enhancing a rainbow, but I have only one phto of a rather poor one, so I&#8217;ve never tried.</p>
<p>The mist is water droplets, not ice, though maybe it could be ice crystals on a very cold winter day. In that case, one can see a phenomenon called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_dog" rel="nofollow">sun dogs</a> when looking toward the sun. But despite the lingering snow and ice, my visit was on a warm day 50&#8242;s F. However, to capture the best rainbow I would probably have to be beside the falls, not too far from the bottom, looking away from the sun. There are limits to my intrepidity!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 03:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve:

Does any aspect of a rainbow register in b&amp;w? I ask this as Niagara, the most voluminous waterfall that I have experienced, almost always has a rainbow hovering about. Then again, a mist of ice crystals, as I assume that in your images to be, may not have the requisite refractive qualities. A rainbow in black and white is a wondrous thing to contemplate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve:</p>
<p>Does any aspect of a rainbow register in b&amp;w? I ask this as Niagara, the most voluminous waterfall that I have experienced, almost always has a rainbow hovering about. Then again, a mist of ice crystals, as I assume that in your images to be, may not have the requisite refractive qualities. A rainbow in black and white is a wondrous thing to contemplate.</p>
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