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	<title>Comments on: Light, dark, figure, ground</title>
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		<title>By: June</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2008/07/light-dark-figure-ground.html#comment-141723</link>
		<dc:creator>June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 05:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Your first photo is intriguing because of the directed light source which only catches the trees behind the foreground. Very Renaissance in feel to me.

I've been playing with shadow and paint and find I know a lot less than I ought to about the way light can strike objects. I think I have some base book learning, but it's not the same as reality. So I'm intrigued by the way you captured that light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Your first photo is intriguing because of the directed light source which only catches the trees behind the foreground. Very Renaissance in feel to me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been playing with shadow and paint and find I know a lot less than I ought to about the way light can strike objects. I think I have some base book learning, but it&#8217;s not the same as reality. So I&#8217;m intrigued by the way you captured that light.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Durbin</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2008/07/light-dark-figure-ground.html#comment-140897</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Durbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela,

That reaction makes sense to me, though it seems in conflict with the common idea that dark and nighttime are scary. In Chinese art theory, dark and light are represented by yin and yang, respectively, which also are associated with female and male and a number of other oppositions. There is always yin within the yang and vice versa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela,</p>
<p>That reaction makes sense to me, though it seems in conflict with the common idea that dark and nighttime are scary. In Chinese art theory, dark and light are represented by yin and yang, respectively, which also are associated with female and male and a number of other oppositions. There is always yin within the yang and vice versa.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2008/07/light-dark-figure-ground.html#comment-140713</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I preffer the first picture, it makes you feel safer, like you in the darkness hidding.
The light one you feel exposed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I preffer the first picture, it makes you feel safer, like you in the darkness hidding.<br />
The light one you feel exposed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Durbin</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2008/07/light-dark-figure-ground.html#comment-139935</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Durbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Birgit,

Your musings touch on a fascinating generalization I've never considered, but that seems to make sense: reactions to darkness have a tendency to be more emotional, whereas lightness brings out more of the intellectual. This would be supported by the huge base of metaphor, probably common across languages, related to bringing something into the light for examination and consideration. Perhaps we feel we can't analyze something if we can't see it well, and we are less likely to go beyond an immediate, emotional response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Birgit,</p>
<p>Your musings touch on a fascinating generalization I&#8217;ve never considered, but that seems to make sense: reactions to darkness have a tendency to be more emotional, whereas lightness brings out more of the intellectual. This would be supported by the huge base of metaphor, probably common across languages, related to bringing something into the light for examination and consideration. Perhaps we feel we can&#8217;t analyze something if we can&#8217;t see it well, and we are less likely to go beyond an immediate, emotional response.</p>
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		<title>By: Birgit</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2008/07/light-dark-figure-ground.html#comment-139844</link>
		<dc:creator>Birgit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Your first picture strikes me as more sensual and your one second as more intellectual. 

In your first image, I can picture myself walking through the woods with my attention caught by the illumination of the tree trunks. In your second picture, I stand back and admire the correspondence between the difference in the textures of the leaves on the left and right. 

Is darkness generally felt as more cozy and lightness as more awakening?    

Looking at the dark and light in my own environment: I stay away from black or white color of clothing because it does not suit me. The exception was black yoga outfits until someone leading a yoga workshop that I attended requested that people do not wear black because he felt that it attracts darkness. That opinion resonated with me. I have difficulty getting satisfying shots of my daughter because she wears much black (you heard me ranting about mothers clad in black carrying their babies. And even my luggage - important to me with my family spread out over two continents - is brown which, in case I should be tempted some day to check my carry-on, would be easily singled out on a conveyor belt.  

And with respect to white, decades ago, given a choice of steel case office furniture, I selected everything in stark white for small room with southern exposure and the walls painted white – you can imagine the glare. By now, I prefer the mellow hue of wood but I still subscribe to white walls. Black and white, isn't white the funereal color in China as black is for the Western World?

Coming back to your pictures, the darker one feels softer, giving the sense of a greater spectrum of grey tones while the lighter one feels more contrasty with the dark leaves on the left looking almost black against the almost white background.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Your first picture strikes me as more sensual and your one second as more intellectual. </p>
<p>In your first image, I can picture myself walking through the woods with my attention caught by the illumination of the tree trunks. In your second picture, I stand back and admire the correspondence between the difference in the textures of the leaves on the left and right. </p>
<p>Is darkness generally felt as more cozy and lightness as more awakening?    </p>
<p>Looking at the dark and light in my own environment: I stay away from black or white color of clothing because it does not suit me. The exception was black yoga outfits until someone leading a yoga workshop that I attended requested that people do not wear black because he felt that it attracts darkness. That opinion resonated with me. I have difficulty getting satisfying shots of my daughter because she wears much black (you heard me ranting about mothers clad in black carrying their babies. And even my luggage - important to me with my family spread out over two continents - is brown which, in case I should be tempted some day to check my carry-on, would be easily singled out on a conveyor belt.  </p>
<p>And with respect to white, decades ago, given a choice of steel case office furniture, I selected everything in stark white for small room with southern exposure and the walls painted white – you can imagine the glare. By now, I prefer the mellow hue of wood but I still subscribe to white walls. Black and white, isn&#8217;t white the funereal color in China as black is for the Western World?</p>
<p>Coming back to your pictures, the darker one feels softer, giving the sense of a greater spectrum of grey tones while the lighter one feels more contrasty with the dark leaves on the left looking almost black against the almost white background.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Durbin</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2008/07/light-dark-figure-ground.html#comment-139313</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Durbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Birgit,

Thanks for a very interesting response. Clearly, you're attuned to possibilities for enlightenment, so I hope they happen along your path!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Birgit,</p>
<p>Thanks for a very interesting response. Clearly, you&#8217;re attuned to possibilities for enlightenment, so I hope they happen along your path!</p>
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		<title>By: Birgit</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2008/07/light-dark-figure-ground.html#comment-139236</link>
		<dc:creator>Birgit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

In the 'Eschers' I immediately focus on the buddha-like figure in the middle, just below the elephant. That figure determines what i see next -  a dark figure makes me see the dark shapes, a light figure makes me see the light shapes. 

Thus, there seems to be additional complexity besides light and dark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>In the &#8216;Eschers&#8217; I immediately focus on the buddha-like figure in the middle, just below the elephant. That figure determines what i see next -  a dark figure makes me see the dark shapes, a light figure makes me see the light shapes. </p>
<p>Thus, there seems to be additional complexity besides light and dark.</p>
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