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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2008/11/learning-to-paint-water-response-to-last-comment.html/comment-page-1#comment-249244</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am such an amateur painter. I admire you guys</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am such an amateur painter. I admire you guys</p>
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		<title>By: June</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2008/11/learning-to-paint-water-response-to-last-comment.html/comment-page-1#comment-193143</link>
		<dc:creator>June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 03:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Birgit,

I highly recommend flying to London to study Turner. Can I come too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Birgit,</p>
<p>I highly recommend flying to London to study Turner. Can I come too?</p>
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		<title>By: Birgit Zipser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Birgit Zipser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 01:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>June,

Visiting a friend today, we looked at water paintings. Some impressionist&#039;s (Monet) water was a boring decorative pattern. Hopper&#039;s water seemed solid giving the impression that one would hurt oneself falling into it. Corot&#039;s and Sargent&#039;s water looked much better. Tempted to fly to London to study Turner. 

Learning to depict people, artists use models that hold still. I don&#039;t see how one can &lt;em&gt;learn&lt;/em&gt; to paint streaming water without immobilizing it as a photograph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>June,</p>
<p>Visiting a friend today, we looked at water paintings. Some impressionist&#8217;s (Monet) water was a boring decorative pattern. Hopper&#8217;s water seemed solid giving the impression that one would hurt oneself falling into it. Corot&#8217;s and Sargent&#8217;s water looked much better. Tempted to fly to London to study Turner. </p>
<p>Learning to depict people, artists use models that hold still. I don&#8217;t see how one can <em>learn</em> to paint streaming water without immobilizing it as a photograph.</p>
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		<title>By: June</title>
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		<dc:creator>June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Birgit,

It may amuse you to know that my painting buddy has had a desire to be by the water, so for the last 3 Fridays we have painted at the Willamette River. I have now 5 inadequately rendered versions of bridges and water and buildings -- nary a street among them. My water always is a sort of bad impressionistic blob, with nothing of the elegance of your photo.

Last Friday I set myself to the task of doing an oil on board, using 2/3 of it for water. The color is nice and I guess you can tell it&#039;s water -- I guess

It&#039;s in light of these experience that I may be a bit more aware than usual of the difficulties of depicting the miracles of rhythm and variation of your waves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Birgit,</p>
<p>It may amuse you to know that my painting buddy has had a desire to be by the water, so for the last 3 Fridays we have painted at the Willamette River. I have now 5 inadequately rendered versions of bridges and water and buildings &#8212; nary a street among them. My water always is a sort of bad impressionistic blob, with nothing of the elegance of your photo.</p>
<p>Last Friday I set myself to the task of doing an oil on board, using 2/3 of it for water. The color is nice and I guess you can tell it&#8217;s water &#8212; I guess</p>
<p>It&#8217;s in light of these experience that I may be a bit more aware than usual of the difficulties of depicting the miracles of rhythm and variation of your waves.</p>
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		<title>By: Birgit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Birgit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>June,

&lt;blockquote&gt;many deliberately badly composed (reference photos)&lt;/blockquote&gt; This reminds me of something that my memory attribute to Tracy Helgeson. She (?)  prefers the photos from which she paints to be of poor quality so that she can let her imagination play. 

I expect to eventually arrive at some level of abstraction after I understand flow of water as well as you understand street scenes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>June,</p>
<blockquote><p>many deliberately badly composed (reference photos)</p></blockquote>
<p> This reminds me of something that my memory attribute to Tracy Helgeson. She (?)  prefers the photos from which she paints to be of poor quality so that she can let her imagination play. </p>
<p>I expect to eventually arrive at some level of abstraction after I understand flow of water as well as you understand street scenes.</p>
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		<title>By: June</title>
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		<dc:creator>June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 03:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Birgit,

I have always found photographs to be sort of incompatible with making my own paintings. The &quot;standards&quot; by which we might come to judge our paintings can&#039;t be those by which we judge a photo -- and yet, the comparison, for me, can be instantly disruptive because I tend to take the photo as a kind of standard. I have started using &quot;reference&quot; photos -- many deliberately badly composed-- so I don&#039;t get too disrupted by the quality of the photo and photographic standards.

That said, I am also lusting after your reflections above, wondering if I could attempt an imitation that wouldn&#039;t look paltry in the face of the photo. I think I need to stick to street scenes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Birgit,</p>
<p>I have always found photographs to be sort of incompatible with making my own paintings. The &#8220;standards&#8221; by which we might come to judge our paintings can&#8217;t be those by which we judge a photo &#8212; and yet, the comparison, for me, can be instantly disruptive because I tend to take the photo as a kind of standard. I have started using &#8220;reference&#8221; photos &#8212; many deliberately badly composed&#8211; so I don&#8217;t get too disrupted by the quality of the photo and photographic standards.</p>
<p>That said, I am also lusting after your reflections above, wondering if I could attempt an imitation that wouldn&#8217;t look paltry in the face of the photo. I think I need to stick to street scenes.</p>
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		<title>By: Birgit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Birgit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 00:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am thinking of capturing child motion for my AP overlays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am thinking of capturing child motion for my AP overlays.</p>
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