Comments for Art & Perception http://artandperception.com a multi-disciplinary dialog Mon, 07 May 2012 03:49:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 Comment on Is Graphic Design Art? (guest post by Brandon Hunter) by Anja Mohn-Mitchell http://artandperception.com/2009/02/is-graphic-design-art-guest-post-by-brandon-hunter.html/comment-page-1#comment-304492 Anja Mohn-Mitchell Mon, 07 May 2012 03:49:32 +0000 http://artandperception.com/?p=3177#comment-304492 Forgot this: my art website is: www.anjamohn.com I am working on merging the two disciplines myself, including process and approach. Forgot this: my art website is: http://www.anjamohn.com
I am working on merging the two disciplines myself, including process and approach.

]]> Comment on Is Graphic Design Art? (guest post by Brandon Hunter) by Anja Mohn-Mitchell http://artandperception.com/2009/02/is-graphic-design-art-guest-post-by-brandon-hunter.html/comment-page-1#comment-304490 Anja Mohn-Mitchell Mon, 07 May 2012 03:47:29 +0000 http://artandperception.com/?p=3177#comment-304490 Thank you, Brandon, for this post. Having dealt with this question for years myself, turned it over and over, and also having heard people's opinion, I would add to the definition: Graphic Design is a form of art, where the artist uses his or her skill to accomplish an assigned project. He basically uses his skills on behalf of a client's vision, plan or mission and finds an appropriate solution to it. Historically, until the beginnings of modern art (19th century) art and design were not separated, to define more clearly: art until then was solely commissioned work, commissioned by church or kings and rulers. Only in the early beginnings of modern art (French realism) the artists started to make art for arts sake alone. But for example in poster design during French Belle Epoque, there was no question, that it would be the artists, who would design the famous posters. The further modern art progressed, however, the more the two disciplines separated and graphic design as an entirely separate discipline emerged; leading to the idea that the latter was of lower value than Fine Art (Art for Art's sake versus commercial art). I definitely agree that a visual creator, be he artist or designer, who has in depth training and study of visual language under his belt, will be able to produce the more far reaching work. These are just a few thoughts; I think this discussion will be ongoing, at least for me. I like to see a renaissance of the multidisciplinary artist, and the two disciplines merging back into one. Thank you, Brandon, for this post. Having dealt with this question for years myself, turned it over and over, and also having heard people’s opinion, I would add to the definition: Graphic Design is a form of art, where the artist uses his or her skill to accomplish an assigned project. He basically uses his skills on behalf of a client’s vision, plan or mission and finds an appropriate solution to it. Historically, until the beginnings of modern art (19th century) art and design were not separated, to define more clearly: art until then was solely commissioned work, commissioned by church or kings and rulers.
Only in the early beginnings of modern art (French realism) the artists started to make art for arts sake alone. But for example in poster design during French Belle Epoque, there was no question, that it would be the artists, who would design the famous posters. The further modern art progressed, however, the more the two disciplines separated and graphic design as an entirely separate discipline emerged; leading to the idea that the latter was of lower value than Fine Art (Art for Art’s sake versus commercial art). I definitely agree that a visual creator, be he artist or designer, who has in depth training and study of visual language under his belt, will be able to produce the more far reaching work. These are just a few thoughts; I think this discussion will be ongoing, at least for me. I like to see a renaissance of the multidisciplinary artist, and the two disciplines merging back into one.

]]> Comment on What is the Art of the 21st Century? by Christie http://artandperception.com/2006/11/what-is-the-art-of-the-21st-century.html/comment-page-1#comment-302779 Christie Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:58:41 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/2006/11/what-is-the-art-of-the-21st-century.html#comment-302779 I'm amazed at all this conversation on art movement when the reason we have nothing to claim for this century is that the internet is playing a huge part in the movements sterility. We want sales (in whatever you are doing as art) and we want it now as the microwave society we have become. Most of the big art clubs are about opinion and what I like and playing homage to the artists that made it big in sales when the economy was great. Lets face it most everything has been done. Galleries are hopelessly trying to hang on. Everyone that can afford to take a 5 day workshops tries to be a money making artist in the 5 minutes after the workshop end. We need to instill individuality and a better work ethics for artists. We no longer have groups getting together but instead spread all over the world we use facebook or another means of communication to hook up. We have lost the art of letter writing of which this is why we have all the history on other artist. Where is it today--blogs, texts and basically electronics. Instead of looking for the next big Art Movements art in itself needs to refine what it is and that not everyone painting today is an artist. I’m amazed at all this conversation on art movement when the reason we have nothing to claim for this century is that the internet is playing a huge part in the movements sterility. We want sales (in whatever you are doing as art) and we want it now as the microwave society we have become. Most of the big art clubs are about opinion and what I like and playing homage to the artists that made it big in sales when the economy was great. Lets face it most everything has been done. Galleries are hopelessly trying to hang on. Everyone that can afford to take a 5 day workshops tries to be a money making artist in the 5 minutes after the workshop end. We need to instill individuality and a better work ethics for artists. We no longer have groups getting together but instead spread all over the world we use facebook or another means of communication to hook up. We have lost the art of letter writing of which this is why we have all the history on other artist. Where is it today–blogs, texts and basically electronics. Instead of looking for the next big Art Movements art in itself needs to refine what it is and that not everyone painting today is an artist.

]]> Comment on Out With It by Jay http://artandperception.com/2012/04/out-with-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-302764 Jay Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:17:05 +0000 http://artandperception.com/?p=6204#comment-302764 Birgit: Gesso over the foam indeed. I might add that gesso was used because I have a jar of it that was sitting on a shelf. It is actually deficient as a masking agent, but the overall undulations in the surface that it allows seems to add to the visual interest. In the past I have painted a nice juicy application of primer that I then sprinkle with fine sand. This ends up as thicker and more resistant to heat. But, one thing about this particular gesso stuff is that it can be washed off later if I so desire. And, yes, the foam melts back, which can be controlled with patience and the paint removal gun at a moderate setting. As for the railings painting: that is supposed to be snow on the ground. As I inferred, the painting was, and might still be, on the point of departure. So I went at it with a lot of whitish varnish, applied in "what the hell" mode. I then wiped the varnish off things like the posts and railings so as to give then greater prominence. As always, your comments are appreciated. Birgit:

Gesso over the foam indeed. I might add that gesso was used because I have a jar of it that was sitting on a shelf. It is actually deficient as a masking agent, but the overall undulations in the surface that it allows seems to add to the visual interest. In the past I have painted a nice juicy application of primer that I then sprinkle with fine sand. This ends up as thicker and more resistant to heat. But, one thing about this particular gesso stuff is that it can be washed off later if I so desire. And, yes, the foam melts back, which can be controlled with patience and the paint removal gun at a moderate setting.

As for the railings painting: that is supposed to be snow on the ground. As I inferred, the painting was, and might still be, on the point of departure. So I went at it with a lot of whitish varnish, applied in “what the hell” mode. I then wiped the varnish off things like the posts and railings so as to give then greater prominence.

As always, your comments are appreciated.

]]> Comment on Out With It by Birgit Zipser http://artandperception.com/2012/04/out-with-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-302745 Birgit Zipser Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:12:44 +0000 http://artandperception.com/?p=6204#comment-302745 Jay, Looking at the first painting, it appears that you gessoed the background because of the white peaking through the varnish. What shrank with heating, therefore, is the design. I suppose there are no cracks in the design because the foamula melts upon heating, thereby creating smooth depressions? Why did the railing in the last painting accumulate more varnish than the meadow/dirt? Your experimenting is inspirational. Must try to experiment more with my materials. Jay,

Looking at the first painting, it appears that you gessoed the background because of the white peaking through the varnish. What shrank with heating, therefore, is the design. I suppose there are no cracks in the design because the foamula melts upon heating, thereby creating smooth depressions?

Why did the railing in the last painting accumulate more varnish than the meadow/dirt?

Your experimenting is inspirational. Must try to experiment more with my materials.

]]> Comment on Out With It by Jay http://artandperception.com/2012/04/out-with-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-302585 Jay Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:10:59 +0000 http://artandperception.com/?p=6204#comment-302585 John: I'm sure there are a number of gesso formulations. This is put out by Permanent Pigments and is gypsum with ten percent glue. The label does not specify what glue. John:

I’m sure there are a number of gesso formulations. This is put out by Permanent Pigments and is gypsum with ten percent glue. The label does not specify what glue.

]]> Comment on Out With It by Mark Gottsegen http://artandperception.com/2012/04/out-with-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-302531 Mark Gottsegen Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:30:06 +0000 http://artandperception.com/?p=6204#comment-302531 What do you mean by the word, "gesso?" That's Italian for "plaster," and refers, originally, to the intonaco coating for a painting layer of fresco. How about reading up on that at www.AMIEN.org? What do you mean by the word, “gesso?” That’s Italian for “plaster,” and refers, originally, to the intonaco coating for a painting layer of fresco.

How about reading up on that at http://www.AMIEN.org?

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